Body Language – Debate – Stephen Fry, Jordan Peterson, Michael Dyson and Michelle Goldberg

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Cat
Cat
4 years ago

I think that anyone that rocks that much has a problem…. as a mother to an infant you tend to do that rocking motion when you wait in line at the supermarket with a bag or trolley in your hand, apparently it is a nurture thing, but then you wean off it as your child ages. The only time I have seen someone rock that much has been with mentally handicapped people and yes it is definitely self soothing!
Fry is a long term favourite of mine. I really like it when a certified crazy person is more normal and rational than the normal person and he does that often. It shows that something like bipolar is no excuse for breaking the law!

Great job Mandy on this one. It must take a lot out of you to sit back, watch and analyse.

I’m still disturbed by that rocking!

Kellie Russell
Kellie Russell
4 years ago
Reply to  Cat

I rock like that some times. If I’m nervous or feeling particularly irritable. The repetitive motion calms me down.

Kellie Russell
Kellie Russell
4 years ago
Reply to  Kellie Russell

But I don’t usually do it in front of an audience.

GaryC
GaryC
4 years ago

The blue whale stimulating himself was a bit much. Dude has issues. Considering he’s a pastor I wouldn’t be letting my kids get too close to him.

redneckdavinci
redneckdavinci
4 years ago

I’ve seen this video shredded before on Computing Forever’s channel, but I really enjoyed your commentary and also the sections you showed. I know I should watch the whole lecture, but Dyson is a real bummer. And Fry is right; just being a decent human being is how we get true social justice.

jimmer
jimmer
4 years ago

A verbatim speech by ” a columnist for The Daily Beast, Slate, and The New York Times” indicates she’s ill prepared for an actually debate. Weak cheese. As for Dyson, don’t lots of disturbed people share that auto-rocking movement? And while normal folk don’t caring about PC, it’s the school kids who are being quietly programmed, indoctrinated, and ruined. Thanks.

Mandy
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4 years ago
Reply to  jimmer

well i like to think i have normal kids… i will tell you with these normal kids, that jokes have definitely changed…it is now cool to mock ‘im offended’ and joke about getting sued. because kids protest stupidity of pc like kids protest anything…Mocking it.

MK
MK
4 years ago
Reply to  Mandy

Yes.
Kids are simply honest and do not censor themselves (or censor other people *cough* the GOOG monster), which is a very good thing.

Cat
Cat
4 years ago
Reply to  Mandy

Standard joke in this house is “that’s racist”. Buy dark chocolate = that’s racist. I burnt the toast = that’s racist…

I can’t joke about transgender because “you don’t mock people with mental illness”

Ask him to do chores “slavery is dead mum”

Apparently all of his nerdy crew are the same. They mock PC rules

Mandy
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4 years ago
Reply to  Cat

lol!! yes they do… which says these sick globalist are going to be fighting everyone!!! No generation is compliant.

GOMF3602
GOMF3602
4 years ago

” The blue whale stimulating himself” You are killing me, Mandy. I echo the comments of others who see the self-stimulating as a sign of being disturbed or unresolved issues.

Mandy
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4 years ago
Reply to  GOMF3602

:XD: :crying: :Mandy: :Mr No Name:

madvinmryk
madvinmryk
4 years ago

Boy, what a difference it makes when you factor in body language to the words we are hearing. It gives a whole new meaning to this debate. (I have a talent for saying the obvious). Dyson has an ego and an arrogance about him that is not right. I wouldn’t watch this thing except for Mandy’s commentary.

chips
chips
4 years ago

As usual, a wise commentary by Mandy and a very interesting discussion to follow. I watched this debate in its entirety without Mandy’s help and came away with the impression that someone did a singularly bad job of putting the debate together. It seemed to consist of people in the main who did not care to support the topic they were chosen for (excluding Jordan Peterson who knew exactly what a debate is and came to engage in one.) I agree that Steven Fry is a wonderful speaker and stole the show but he is not a wonderful debater, and of course the other two were laughable – who thought they were a good idea? It would have been so nice to have people lined up who could actually debate the very interesting topic intelligently and with gravitas. That Mr Dyson showed signs of being Not Quite Right is undeniable – but he must have been showing those signs long before someone asked him on to the podium. I think organisers of public events have a responsibility to line up serious contenders and not engage people who are not capable and will therefore make fools of themselves. The woman Michelle thought it was enough to make cheap cracks about DT which usually gets anyone an easy round of applause these days but has no place – NONE – in a discussion if she wishes to be taken seriously. No, we do not all take those cracks as a given and yes, you did diminish yourself by using that form of rhetorical nonsense. Its not the Stephen Colbert show, lady.
I have a dislike for the ‘preaching’ style not because i am a racist but because I don’t like it. It occurs to me that people who use that style must kind of wind themselves up into a sort of trance and then deliver their sermon like a song. The man who delivered the sermon at Meghan’s wedding had a similar style and i didn’t like it any better there – it is a ritualized performance which does not float my boat and that has nothing to do with skin colour. ( I am an artist and love brown skin, so much more interesting…….. )
Anyway gang keep up the fascinating work!!!!!!!!!!

Swede
Swede
4 years ago

Thanx for this one !
Masturbating is an ego thing, witch I think explains a lot ✌️

Mandy
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4 years ago
Reply to  Swede

😀

just1dude
just1dude
4 years ago

i would be nervous too if the potential outcome of this debate was the lurking million deaths of a second soviet union or maoist china.
Can´t even imagine being in petersons shoes.

Charles Harris
Charles Harris
4 years ago

Now I’m gonna have to go and watch the whole debate.

Just wish I could erase Dyson’s mental masturbation from it.
The amount of self gratification he exhibits is disturbing.

I do have a great deal of respect for individuals like Peterson and Frye who can have thoughtfull measured discourse. Respecting one another by listening to what the other is saying and responding without insults or slander.

Mandy
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4 years ago
Reply to  Charles Harris

yes, it is a rare quality these days

VickyP
4 years ago

I’m not certain Dyson’s rocking demonstrates agreement or comfort. He reminds me of an anxious infant self-soothing against his crib mattress.

Todd Pullara
Todd Pullara
3 years ago

In my opinion, Jordan B. Peterson is a modern day philosopher with no equal, and Eric Dyson is an unhinged racist. Unfortunately, most uninformed people would have you believe the polar opposite. I also think Dr. Peterson’s suit is dapper as all get out. Stephen Fry is the balance between the two sides that we need…reason and logic. Michelle is simply cancer.

We are living in a bizzaro universe.

David McCullough
David McCullough
3 years ago

Peterson clearly won the debate…individual rights over group rights. Censorship is wrong! Preserve the 1st Amendment.

JF
JF
3 years ago

Jordan Peterson is a rock star who went from 0 to 60 in 5 seconds flat; Struggles since youth with the pain of the world and is compelled to map out a path to meaning. How else can we live?
Stephen Fry has been marinating in fame for decades; Eloquent speaker; Hard act to follow.
Both are able to take new information in and appreciate it as such; 2 Rock Stars with Humility and Humanity.
A rarity.
The opposition, MEH.

Kellie Russell
Kellie Russell
4 years ago

What Frye and Peterson said is what I’ve always tried to say. I am told because I’m privileged that I don’t get it.

If we keep indentifying people as part of a group, to afford them special rights or consideration, then we will never see the individuals among that group. Each person should have rights according to their needs. Yes, it’s good to have incentives to encourage diversity. But when you exclude others to get that diversity, just for diversity sake, you trample in another’s individual rights.
On the PC score, if people are going to be concerned about the words others use, then they have to be concerned about ALL words that are offensive.
For instance, someone can’t call out the incorrect usage of a descriptor while cussing and calling someone else a Nazi scum (because they have the look of a Nazi.)

Tauhir Gamildien
Tauhir Gamildien
3 years ago

Hey i just joined the site, came to watch your break down of this debate. Its a pretty heated one after you cut towards the end and im pretty sure you’ve seen the whole one and most of the folks here.

Guess i just wanted your take on the section where Dyson says “You’re a mean man white man”

Buffy Dawson
Buffy Dawson
4 years ago

Didn’t we have the debate about political correctness 30 years ago? Are we really that out of ideas? We wonder why nothing is changing? Everyone’s so hell bent on being heard, no one is listening and damn sure no one thinking it through!

Eric Johnson
Eric Johnson
4 years ago

Watched this twice, a couple of weeks ago. 3rd time the Revelatory Charm. Thank you. I sit here alone and, by golly, your comments (sidenotes) are made hilarious (to me) by your truthful revelations. And I find myself blurting laughter. Yes, finding sought truth, when found, brings relief, often with laughter. “God laughs.” The Blue Whale & Rocking Motion & the Verbatim Notes (protection). Something amiss with Dyson mind, uses “preacher” status & smart-butt comments for distracted laughter, not meaningful for the Greater Good, but laughter born of “me, me, me” that SO Many “pre-programmed” minds accept as a True Credit deserving of a True, Open, Risen, Awakened Mind. I have seen this ploy, to distract already from the debate subject, used by irrationalists (lovers of literalism) all my life. Using high-falutin’ terms that seem erudite, but show his false intelligence: these smart-butt phrases that do not Speak Plainly, like “moral mendacity” and “psychic commode.” These are, to my educated mind that knows minds of bullying & abuse, quite condescending, and diminish the whole idea of even having a debate in the first place. I never met or served Mr. Fry in my years amidst princes, movie stars and the world’s movers & shakers. I have served tens of thousands of people over my life, and no matter how Famous or Not, there are people that radiate (if you ‘see’) genuine, thoughtful, respectful character in their words, tone, mannerisms and substance. Yes, I love him too, beyond the “star” stuff. Will made a vid on Peterson. Brilliant. Does not understand (I don’t know if anyone does) the “unseen” or spiritual message of the “Two Fighting Muslim Women.” When we know the meaning of KIng Solomon’s decision to “split the baby,” we also know the meaning of the 2 Muslim Women in the Quran.

Do not believe that you seek applause firstly, but to educate, where it really counts. My *applause” is in my heart, and it sounds of joy.
Love to you and yours.

Mitzi Cole
Mitzi Cole
4 years ago

Mandy, you nailed it! No one really cares, they just want to live their life.

Kelly Krueger
Kelly Krueger
3 years ago

New member here, been a subscriber on youtube since you started, and completely LOVE you, and most of your opinions. With that out of the way, you are so spot on, that the entire video I was cheering you on!!! I felt, and witnessed the same, and agree, I love Stephen Fry as well. Peterson is right behind him ;)….it was refreshing to hear you call out the preacher, and hysterical. Love your commentary, and wish I could afford to support you here. Will always support your channel by watching with youtube red, I hear ya get a better cut…good luck, Mandy, and hopefully, I can get a subscription through here soon!!! Huge hugs!!!!